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How do you measure forgiveness in irons? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been taking a deep dive into forgiveness when it comes to irons. WRXer ‘Nev Adams’ uses Mizuno’s MP-20 and JPX921 irons as an example and asks:
“I wonder what the difference is in forgiveness, and how do you measure it?”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- NRJyzr: “Forgiveness is measured in MOI, moment of inertia. MOI for the clubhead is the measure of its resistance to twisting on off-center contact.”
- AC in TX: “I measure by my crap swings … if it still flies straight, it’s forgiving … otherwise not so much.”
- TigerinTheWoods: “Anecdotally, I find the 921 Tour more forgiving than the MP20. I find the spin consistency a big part of that. Very easy to balloon the MB because they are designed for workability. I think that is something not always factored into forgiveness. Your dynamic loft control is tested, and any manipulation of the club face is exaggerated with the COG closer to the hosel. Everything about the tour is more friendly IMO.”
- MtlJeff: “I’ve never really looked at MOI numbers when it comes to forgiveness, just would hit the clubs and see. I remember when the Epic SZ driver came out it had the highest MOI of all time, and I didn’t find it super forgiving for a 460cc driver. I guess some of this is just a personal thing, or how you usually miss. It’s kind of like bounce to me with wedges. I understand the numbers, but I find it doesn’t always mean as much to the individual.”
Entire Thread: “How do you measure forgiveness in irons?”
Neal Shipley was the first to admit that he enjoyed his food while in college. But since his days at Ohio State, he’s slimmed down and earned a PGA Tour Card.
That hasn’t stopped him from having fun with his wedge stampings, though it’s led to some misunderstandings.
On the 54 (degree), we have ‘Big Fudge,'” Shipley told GolfWRX. “It was supposed to be ‘Big Fridge,’ so this happened a little while ago. ‘Big Fridge’ was a nickname between my college teammates and I, with ‘fridge’ meaning stomach, a big stomach.
“We told the Ping guys to put … ‘Big Fridge’ on it, and I think maybe some bad cell service or something, and they thought I said ‘fudge,’ so they put fudge on it.”
On Shipley’s 50-degree he also continues the food theme, this time with his go-to order at the “Golden Arches,” and his stamping “DONS 7.”
“The number 7 meal, the two cheeseburger meal, that was my McDonald’s order, back when I would have McDonald’s frequently,” Shipley shared.
At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals who all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.
It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.
Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, @raw10628 has a L.A.B. DF3 putter and Masters putter cover up for grabs.
From the listing: “Some great items here today, time to thin out and make room for next set of gear. All prices include shipping.
LAB DF3 Purple 33.5” 68° lie with TPT – $725. LAB Masters release DF3 cover – $150.”
To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link. If you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum, you can learn more here: GolfWRX BST Rules
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Deadeye
Nov 18, 2020 at 2:39 pm
Golfworks is the answer. Ralph Maltby published a list of clubs in 2004 that gives all the details on almost any club made. It updated regularly. They also make great clubs.
Frank Crowe
Nov 18, 2020 at 11:13 am
It’s a fine line between forgiveness, clunkiness and playability. The original Big Bertha irons were easy to hit off a tee or a tempting lie but on tight lies or thick rough they were a disaster. Have forgiving long iron in the bag and some nice blades for the scoring shots from 6 iron in.