Opinion & Analysis
Chamblee apologizes again to Tiger, but what is he apologizing for?
How many times can you apologize without actually apologizing? For Brandel Chamblee, the number is now two.
The Golf Channel analyst appeared on Golf Central on Wednesday and spoke with Rich Lerner about a Golf.com article he penned that gave Woods, who won five time on the PGA Tour in 2013, an “F” grade for the season because of his multiple rules infractions.
In the article, Chamblee wrote that Woods was “cavalier” with the rules, and then proceeded to compare Woods’ rules infractions to a test the analyst cheated on while in fourth grade.
“In comparing those incidents to my cheating episode in the fourth grade, I went too far,” Chamblee said in the interview. “Cheating involves intent. Now I, I know what my intent was on that fourth grade math test. But there’s no way that I could know with 100 percent certainty what Tiger’s intent was in any of those situations. That was my mistake.”
When asked if he had a vendetta against Woods, Chamblee said, “of course not.” But he admitted that he is sometimes forceful with his opinions on Woods, and that he caused a problem for Golf Channel by writing the column. What he could have done next was finally say on camera that he was sorry to Tiger Woods. That would have been enough. But Chamblee went a different route, declaring that he would not write for any media outlet outside of Golf Channel/NBC.
“Tiger and his camp, they’re upset at Golf Channel; they specifically called Golf Channel out,” Chamblee said. “And to me they’re barking up the wrong tree. This column appeared on Golf.com, nobody here at Golf Channel knew anything about it and my editor at Golf.com asked me to rewrite the ending when I sent it in to him. I wished I would have listened to him. But all of this has made me realize that there is a conflict and a confusion when you work for one company and write for another company. So going forward, I’m not going to be writing for Golf Magazine beginning next year. I’ll be writing exclusively for GolfChannel.com, (NBCSports.com). And you know, that way if Tiger and his camp have an issue with something I write, they will at least be yelling at the right people.”
What’s apparently lost on Chamblee is that at no point has he addressed the real issue. He never said that he was wrong; that Tiger Woods, the most-watched golfer in history, couldn’t possible be a cheater on the golf course. But he did say this:
“My job as an analyst at Golf Channel requires me to analyze golf and offer my opinions. I’d like to think I’m pretty good at it.”
Sounds apologetic, doesn’t it?
Not knowing “with 100 percent certainty” what Tiger’s intent was during his rules infractions is a far cry from an apology. That’s why if Chamblee isn’t prepared to say that Woods isn’t a cheater, he shouldn’t be apologizing. Because what then is he really apologizing for?
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Opinion & Analysis
AVL: We’re talking about practice! My best tips for taking your game to the course
With the beginning of June on the horizon and courses rounding into peak condition for the season, it’s time to hone the finer skills that often get rusty over the winter. More sunlight also means more time to get out on the course and work on your game.
Whether it’s the practice green or the driving range, there’s always something to improve—whether you’re enjoying the fresh air or preparing for a weekend game or tournament. You can work on drills or freestyle around the green, and friendly competition is a great way to sharpen your skills.
While there are endless ways to get better at golf, I’m going to focus on practicing around the green. Let’s take a look at a few things to keep in mind as we head into the summer months.
Drills
From the driving range to the practice green, it’s important to incorporate drills into your routine. Years ago, I spent a weekend working on my short game with James Sieckmann. He recommended doing drill work for 5–10 minutes, then returning to your main practice.
This way, you create a balance between structured drills and real-world scenarios, so you’re not confined to “perfect” situations. For example, hitting the same three-foot putt over and over is good for repetition, but after a while, it becomes less interactive for your brain.
My approach is to use a putting trainer with a narrow gate for the ball to pass through, or simply place tees just outside the width of the ball. I’ll hit a series of four putts through the gate for three sets. Then, from a similar distance, I’ll hit four putts without the training aid and repeat that sequence three times.
Next, I’ll hit a number of 15–25 foot putts in a random fashion, then circle back to repeat the short putt drills with and without the training aid.
This breaks up the rhythm of hitting short putts with the training aid. When you hit the same short putts over and over, it’s easy to get into a groove—which is great for the drill, but not reflective of actual course play. While finding a rhythm is fundamental for drills, I like to introduce variation with longer putts to keep things realistic.
Game Mode
Once you’ve established a foundation with drills, it’s time to simulate on-course scenarios. This is where a few practice games come in handy.
One that I’ve been enjoying lately involves putting 10- to 15-footers with two balls. If I make the putt, great! If I miss, I pull the missed ball back a putter length. Suddenly, that little tap-in becomes a nerve-wracking three-footer—at least at first. As you get better at this game, those three- and five-footers become much more comfortable and routine.
It may sound cliché, but each shot is just what it is—it’s how we react that makes the difference. I like this game because it blends the pressure of on-course putting with the consequence of leaving yourself a much longer putt than usual.
Another game I like is one I recently learned from Brad Faxon. Place three tees in a line at four different locations around the hole: one at 3 feet, one at 6 feet, and one at 8 feet. The 3- and 6-foot putts count as par, and the 8-footer is for birdie.
This game keeps you focused on scoring and helps you get into a competitive mindset. You can even think about this putting game while you’re on the course. I just started playing it, and last week I couldn’t get better than two under par.
Competition
Competition during practice is when drills and games come to life, and you start to see results. For me, nothing beats a putting contest with a friend or two. In the right setting, these contests can become talking points for the whole season.
Match play, a game of 21, or simply seeing who can make the most one-putts (with a small prize on the line) are all great ways to simulate real on-course pressure. Recently, I played in a putting contest where one competitor made back-to-back 30- and 50-foot putts. As they say, expect your opponent to make every putt—and he nearly did. That’s impressive, and it’s something you see on the course, too: you have to stay committed to your game plan, no matter what.
When it comes to practice, it’s important to blend feedback from recent rounds with the fundamentals you want to reinforce. Drills, games, and competition—from the driving range to the putting green—form the backbone of skills you’ll rely on during actual rounds.
Finding the right balance is something we’re all working on, one practice session at a time. With the beginning of June on the horizon and courses rounding into peak condition for the season, it’s time to hone the finer skills that often get rusty over the winter. More sunlight also means more time to get out on the course and work on your game. Whether it’s the practice green or the driving range, there’s always something to improve—whether you’re enjoying the fresh air or preparing for a weekend game or tournament. You can work on drills or freestyle around the green, and friendly competition is a great way to sharpen your skills. While there are endless ways to get better at golf, I’m going to focus on practicing around the green. Let’s take a look at a few things to keep in mind as we head into the summer months.
Drills
From the driving range to the practice green, it’s important to incorporate drills into your routine. Years ago, I spent a weekend working on my short game with James Sieckmann. He recommended doing drill work for 5–10 minutes, then returning to your main practice. This way, you create a balance between structured drills and real-world scenarios, so you’re not confined to “perfect” situations. For example, hitting the same three-foot putt over and over is good for repetition, but after a while, it becomes less interactive for your brain.
My approach is to use a putting trainer with a narrow gate for the ball to pass through, or simply place tees just outside the width of the ball. I’ll hit a series of four putts through the gate for three sets. Then, from a similar distance, I’ll hit four putts without the training aid and repeat that sequence three times. Next, I’ll hit a number of 15–25 foot putts in a random fashion, then circle back to repeat the short putt drills with and without the training aid.
This breaks up the rhythm of hitting short putts with the training aid. When you hit the same short putts over and over, it’s easy to get into a groove—which is great for the drill, but not reflective of actual course play. While finding a rhythm is fundamental for drills, I like to introduce variation with longer putts to keep things realistic.
Game Mode
Once you’ve established a foundation with drills, it’s time to simulate on-course scenarios. This is where a few practice games come in handy. One that I’ve been enjoying lately involves putting 10- to 15-footers with two balls. If I make the putt, great! If I miss, I pull the missed ball back a putter length.
Suddenly, that little tap-in becomes a nerve-wracking three-footer—at least at first. As you get better at this game, those three- and five-footers become much more comfortable and routine. It may sound cliché, but each shot is just what it is—it’s how we react that makes the difference. I like this game because it blends the pressure of on-course putting with the consequence of leaving yourself a much longer putt than usual.
Another game I like is one I recently learned from Brad Faxon. Place three tees in a line at four different locations around the hole: one at 3 feet, one at 6 feet, and one at 8 feet. The 3- and 6-foot putts count as par, and the 8-footer is for birdie.
This game keeps you focused on scoring and helps you get into a competitive mindset. You can even think about this putting game while you’re on the course. I just started playing it, and last week I couldn’t get better than two under par.
Competition
Competition during practice is when drills and games come to life, and you start to see results. For me, nothing beats a putting contest with a friend or two. In the right setting, these contests can become talking points for the whole season. Match play, a game of 21, or simply seeing who can make the most one-putts (with a small prize on the line) are all great ways to simulate real on-course pressure. Recently, I played in a putting contest where one competitor made back-to-back 30- and 50-foot putts. As they say, expect your opponent to make every putt—and he nearly did. That’s impressive, and it’s something you see on the course, too: you have to stay committed to your game plan, no matter what.
When it comes to practice, it’s important to blend feedback from recent rounds with the fundamentals you want to reinforce. Drills, games, and competition—from the driving range to the putting green—form the backbone of skills you’ll rely on during actual rounds. Finding the right balance is something we’re all working on, one practice session at a time.
For Korean golfers, we always look forward to the last of the kkot-saem-chu-I for the true start of a new golf season. The term refers to a cold snap, but literally translates as “winter being jealous of the flowers beginning to bloom, thus lashing out one final time before surrendering to spring”.
A rather poetic mouthful packed into a short expression.
Koreans can be like that. Understated, yet oddly expressive at the same time. And nowhere is this more true on the golf course and in our golf bags. In fact, I suspect many Korean golfers look forward to new apparel and accessory drops more than they do actual equipment launches each year.
At this point, Korean golf fashion may exist on its own timeline. (courtesy of @seonbi_golfer)
There is ample evidence to support that suspicion. Korea is the world’s third-largest golf market behind the United States and Japan, yet its appetite for golf apparel exceeds that of both countries combined. Recent estimates suggest that Korea accounts for nearly 40 percent of the global golf apparel market, placing it among the world’s most influential golf fashion markets and punching well above its size.
Simply, we care deeply about how new golf clubs look and feel, but enjoy looking good while swinging them even more.
Golfers in the West may laugh and say that golf is played on a course, not a fashion runway. Perhaps. But what’s the harm in trying to look and feel good, if the added self-confidence can help actual performance? It certainly seems to have worked for Jason Day, who may have unlocked a new stats category: dormant strokes gained. Coincidence?
During the COVID-era, estimates placed the market near $9 billion, an astonishing figure for a single country.
As a proud member of Gen X, I’ve witnessed the highs and lows of golf fashion firsthand. The pleated trousers and wing-tipped shoes of Jack Nicklaus, the stylish plus-fours and knickers of Payne Stewart, the baggy black trousers and fitted mock-necks of Tiger Woods, and the thigh-hugging athletic tailoring of Rory McIlroy. Golf fashion, like the golf swing itself, has rarely stood still.
But nowhere have those trends shifted, evolved, and been scrutinized quite as relentlessly as in Korea. Here, golf fashion moves faster than fairway gossip, and consumers dissect brands with a level of discernment that can be both impressive and mildly terrifying. New brands are studied, judged, embraced, or dismissed with startling efficiency.
The result is a consumer base with one of the sharpest eyes for quality and authenticity anywhere in the world. It is difficult to quantify, but easy to recognize. Clean lines without trying too hard. Luxury mixed with utility. Trend awareness balanced by restraint and purpose.
It’s golf fashion shaped by one of the world’s most style-literate cities, something I like to call Seoul Sensibilities, referring to the taste level forged by a uniquely competitive environment.
And increasingly, global brands have noticed.
Many golf brands in Korea have their own flagship shops dedicated to apparel only
Titleist understood this years ago, when its apparel business in Korea took on a life of its own under new ownership and local direction. What had once been a straightforward extension of an iconic equipment giant became something sharper and more premium. By going all in on the serious Tour-player look (I couldn’t even fit into their XL sizes), Titleist struck the right chord with Korean consumers and helped its fledgling apparel business break into the mainstream. Titleist became a household name even for non-golfers who wore its caps, shirts, and windbreakers in daily life. In many ways, it proved that even heritage golf brands could carry real fashion credibility when viewed through a Korean lens.
Several years later, PXG took a page out of Titleist’s playbook and followed suit. Korean consumers helped transform the brand from one known largely for irons and loud commercials into something broader and more stylish. PXG apparel’s growth in Korea was explosive, where it found an early audience and turned the category into something more than mere logo merchandise. It is still hard to walk anywhere in Seoul without seeing its palindrome logo.
Malbon’s meteoric rise in the United States was genuine, but its ascent into a global golf lifestyle brand owes much to Korea, where it was elevated by a market already fluent in modern golf style. Korea did not simply embrace Malbon. It pressure-tested the concept, refined its appeal, and helped push it into the global spotlight.
As such, new brands may arrive from abroad, but more often than not, their sharpest evolution happens here. If a brand can earn credibility in Seoul, it’s deemed to have passed one of the toughest style audits in the game.
That is why the next meaningful chapter may not come from outside, but from a Korean brand moving in the opposite direction, carrying those Seoul Sensibilities outward as K-pop once did.
Play young Stay dope.
From Seoul, With Intent
Khalhon is a label that feels less like a trend-chasing newcomer and more like the product of a market that has already seen everything. Golfers here have long been surrounded by luxury logos, technical fabrics, and tour uniforms disguised as lifestyle wear and vice-versa. In other words, novelty alone rarely lasts here, and the Koreans seems to understand that instinctively.
Its style language leans into clean silhouettes, relaxed but tailored proportions, muted palettes, and premium materials that speak quietly but confidently. There is a modern city aesthetic running through it all, with strong layering pieces, thoughtful textures, and subtle branding that suggests sophistication rather than demanding attention.
“Built for the course. Designed beyond it.”
Most importantly, the garments seem designed to blur the line between golfwear and everyday style. Shirts, trousers, knitwear, and outer layers move comfortably between a game of screen golf, a lunch reservation, an airport gate, or an afternoon coffee in Gangnam with friends.
It raises the question of whether this is golfwear that happens to look good off the course, or everyday clothing that performs beautifully on the fairways.
Personally, I have long appreciated Nike Golf for its clean, athletic modernization of golf attire. It also has the useful side effect of making me look like a more serious golfer than I probably am. But off the course, there are times when being instantly identified as the golf guy in a crowd of non-golfers can feel a touch self-conscious.
“Built for the course. Designed beyond it.”
That is part of what drew me to Khalhon, which seemed to blend golf and everyday wear naturally. While some of the outfits may be slightly beyond my personal confidence level, the brand also offers tasteful options for older guys like me who still want to express a little personality without regretting the decision later.
These are not simply flashy outfits worn on the course and then banished to the closet until the next tee time. They work surprisingly well off the course too, and I suspect many of the pieces will still look right a couple of years from now, which would certainly be kinder to my wallet than most golf fashion trends tend to be.
And perhaps that broader lifestyle positioning also helps explain why someone like Sean Wotherspoon would find Khalhon creatively interesting in the first place.
“Built for the course. Designed beyond it.”
“Korea is not only one of the most fashion-forward golf markets in the world, but one of the most fashion-forward markets globally. Korea is ahead, and I love to watch and try to catch up.” – Sean Wotherspoon, Creative Director at Khalhon
Seoul and Beyond
If Khalhon’s rise says something about where Korean golf fashion is today, its relationship with Sean Wotherspoon says even more about where it is heading.
For readers less familiar with Sean Wotherspoon, his arrival at Khalhon is not some routine celebrity endorsement or influencer collaboration. In design and streetwear circles, Wotherspoon is regarded as one of the more influential creative voices of his generation, particularly when it comes to blending nostalgia, storytelling, and contemporary culture into products that people can connect with.
He first gained widespread attention through his now-famous Nike sneaker collaborations, where his vintage-inspired designs and instinct for color helped turn him into one of the defining artists of the late-2010s sneaker era. His work gradually expanded beyond footwear into apparel, automotive collaborations, collectibles, and broader lifestyle design.
Modern golf style now extends well beyond the fairways, where performance and functionality are largely expected by default. And while plenty of brands already make technically competent golfwear, Khalhon seems more focused on designing clothes people would genuinely want to wear even after the round ends.
And when guys at Wotherspoon’s level show genuine interest in working with a Korean golf brand as its new Creative Director, fashion circles tend to sit up and pay attention. There’s already a huge buzz among the fashion-conscious here about upcoming collabs with iconic sports stars and brands.
“My creative direction for Khalhon is disruptive, colorful, nostalgic, and modern. My goal is to blend these avenues seamlessly within each collection.” – Sean Wotherspoon
In chatting with Sean, what stood out most to me was how genuinely energized he sounded about the project itself. Despite having already worked across and countless other creative spaces, he described golf as a completely fresh category for him, saying that Khalhon “will be an amazing vehicle for my design work.”
At the same time, his enthusiasm seemed tied just as much to Korea itself. He spoke openly about admiring Korea’s fashion culture while repeatedly insisting he is still a terrible golfer.
There was something oddly refreshing about that humility. Rather than sounding like a celebrity parachuting into golf simply because the category suddenly became fashionable, Sean sounded genuinely curious about what Korea might do with the category next.
And perhaps that is what makes Khalhon feel interesting right now. The brand feels less like a trend-chaser and more like the natural result of a market now confident enough to export its own point of view.
For years, global brands came to Korea to sharpen their image against one of the most discerning audiences anywhere. Now, a Korean label appears ready to send those Seoul Sensibilities outward instead.
Which brings us back to kkot-saem-chu-i.
That final cold snap before spring always arrives with a reminder that seasons are changing, whether we notice it immediately or not. Golf fashion feels a little like that right now as well, as the old boundaries between sport, streetwear, luxury, and everyday style continue to soften.
And somewhere in Seoul, a Korean golf label already seems prepared for whatever season comes next. I just hope they have everything in my size.
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Sojourn
Nov 20, 2013 at 1:37 pm
The only opinions about Tiger that have ever mattered to me have come from Jack and Arnie. They both seem to like Tiger, and appreciate what he’s done for the game. Coming out and suggesting that anyone on the PGA or LPGA tour cheats is pretty low level. It reeks of someone seeking attention. And, in this case, I’m sure Mr. Palmer would agree, especially where Golf Channel commentators are concerned. I’m sure the kind of comments made by Chamblee are not in line with the philosophy Mr. Palmer had in mind when he helped create the network.
Kirk
Nov 20, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Without Tiger Woods, there very likely would not be a “Golf Channel.”
Ross
Nov 18, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Chamblee thinks he’s the smartest person on the planet. He thinks the world hangs on his every word. He was a D list golfer and he’s an even worse announcer.
Joe
Nov 14, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Cheating is a strong word that I wouldn’t use. I think “embarrassing” is more appropriate. 3 rules infractions in one year is pretty awful.
Mike
Nov 15, 2013 at 1:09 pm
How long did Chamblee play on tour? He’s a golf analyst…big whoop. I was listening to him talk about what Sean Foley and Tiger Woods were working. Tiger’s the best thing to happen to golf in the last 50 years. I’ll take the time to listen to what some of the great players of the game have to say because they know what it’s like to be the best and to have so much attention focused on your golf game and whether or not you’re breaking any rules. (This is a pretty recent development in technology that Jack, Arny, Hogan, and Snead never had to deal with). They didn’t have people from all over the world watching them play golf and calling in rules infractions. Other than his mediocre work on the Golf Channel what will Chamblee be remembered for in 100 years? Nothing. Tiger Woods on the other hand….
Kirk
Nov 20, 2013 at 11:38 am
Embarrassing for whom? Tiger doesn’t have anything to be embarrassed about. What great athlete has never violated a rule within their chosen sport? Tiger’s not the first nor the last to make a mistake. Moreover, Tiger can’t adjust his package without someone calling into the station to report an infraction.
joro
Nov 12, 2013 at 9:32 am
I don’t think the past times he is said to have “cheated” , aside from what he did to his family, is really a true cheat, but the fact he has felt he is entitled to do what he did. Brandel on the other hand has his opinion, and that is okay, he is entitled to that.
Tiger has a ton of fans, both for and against him. The fans think Brandel should be banned for life from ever working again, the others cheer him for the article. That’s the way it is, and always will be. Me ? I think he feels he is entitled to do whatever he wishes and should not be called out at any time, but he did mess up badly with his family, and he really doesn’t seem to care, but that is him.
In this instance however he was wrong, dead wrong. I do not believe it is possible for a Golfer of his caliber to NOT SEE the ball move. Any time I have had to move loose stuff I am intently watching the ball to see if it moves, and I think anyone who cares does the same. I can not and do not believe he thought the ball just oscillated and did not move, it was clear on the tape. Why I do not know, but he knew it moved and did nothing but play on. It was a downright lie.
Tadashi Davis
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:05 pm
First off anyone who throws jabs at a man personal life warrants no response, however I will respond. I am sick and tired of the idiots who put Tiger’s personal life with his golfing life. The two are totally different and should not be held in the same light or topic. That is pure buffoonery! Secondly, Tiger never said he did not see the ball move…so in your attempts to belittle goals most talented player playing today please come with facts. Referring to a mans private life when it has nothing to do with the sport of golf is a move!
RCM1301
Nov 19, 2013 at 11:44 am
Well, I am one of those idiots who do think your personal life and work life combined defined what you as person are and also thinks those who do not see it are idiots. So, we both are idiots, and the biggest is Tiger.
Kirk
Nov 20, 2013 at 1:02 pm
What do you really know about Tiger’s personal or prefessional life?
We know he’s number one in the world, and has been for most of his adult life. He has a foundation that helps thousand of kids. He’s one of the most well known athletes in the world. We know he won five tournaments last year, more than any other player, but he committed three rules violations. In his 16 year career Tiger has single handedly changed the entire landscape of the sport, and has no notable prior history of violating rules.
In his personal life, he was raised by two seemly loving parents, who he seems to love just as much. He was a great student, and earned a scholarship to Standard University. He married early and has two beautiful children who he seems to love and care for. He cheated on his wife on a number of occasions, but we don’t really know their marital relationship was going prior to the cheating. He’s since began dating arguably the greatest American female skier of all time.
I don’t think a reasonable person would consider Tiger an idiot. I don’t know how a reasonable person would feel about you.
RCM1301
Nov 20, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Wow, and a bio like that give him the right to think rules does not apply to him 3 times! Nice!
Kirk
Nov 21, 2013 at 2:25 am
Unlike in your world, everything is not so black and white (If you get my meaning.).
Jamie58UK
Nov 19, 2013 at 6:57 pm
I do not, for the life of me know where the word ‘Cheater’ came from, maybe it’s just a word…..
If your a cheat then you have lied to your fellow man, simple.
Tiger Woods cheated, simple.
Kirk
Nov 20, 2013 at 1:07 pm
Apparently, you don’t trust the PGA to determine who’s cheated or not. What qualifications do you have that make you more knowledgeable on golf rules than the PGA?
Also, it’s you’re, not your. I thought you English know how to speak “English.”
Fred Bluhm
Nov 20, 2013 at 12:35 pm
When you say Tiger doesn’t seem to care about how he messed up with his family, how do you know? Are you a Tiger confidant? Do you hang with him on a daily basis? And, when it comes to the ball moving (a 16th of an inch), you don’t know what Tiger saw. His view standing over the ball was totally different from that of the cameraman, who was shooting from ground level.
Rob
Nov 9, 2013 at 8:40 pm
The common theme of all you brain surgeons who are calling others cheaters is “if you didn’t see what I think I saw or think what I think or interpret things the way I do you are a cheater”. A cheater is by definition someone who is trying to take an unfair advantage. Very doubtful TW standing over the ball saw what we saw after looking at the zoomed in HD video numerous times. And, there is simply no evidence he was trying to take unfair advantage. I wonder, if HD video was zoomed in 10K X ever time we ground our putter, would we see the ball move? if it did, does that make every golfer a cheater? Chamblee’s problem is he mistakes what he thinks he saw, his opinion, and his interpretation for the almighty truth and that is where he went wrong.
RCM1301
Nov 11, 2013 at 12:30 pm
Just because you didn’t see it move, while somebody else may have, makes you the judge to say you are correct and the others are wrong. Read your last sentence about Chamblee – you are falling into your own trap.
RCM1301
Nov 8, 2013 at 4:49 pm
The reason why Tiger is rightly called a cheater, is that he has not accepted his 3 rules violations. In his eyes he was done injustice by being called out for rule violations and penalized, while other golfers will just accept the penalty (right or wrong) and move on. That is the difference.
Tadashi
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:16 pm
First off not accepting something you disagree with does not make you a “cheater”. Please note the definition of a cheater. For sake of argument if he got away with all three of those rule infractions, what possible advantage did he have over his competitors that he did not already have? Moreover I question the motives of all rules violations especially when it come to Tiger Woods. You mean to tell me NOBODY else on the Tour is guilty of a few rules violations? Come on now! There have been questionable rules violations on every top 10 one the tour. Never is it blown out of proportion like with Woods. I wonder why….
RCM1301
Nov 15, 2013 at 3:02 pm
because Tiger let it be blown out of proportion….. He has dozens of excuses and explanations which is fodder for the media. In each case he should have just said “sorry, I made mistake and accept penalty stroke” then the media would have no reason to make this an issue. But typical Tiger, he made it as if he was done an injustice and should not have been penalized.
Jose Nunya
Nov 24, 2013 at 3:16 am
I agree. After Tiger was shown the tape he should/could have said something like “Looking down on the ball it appeared to have oscillated but clearly I can see now it did not.” As for those that think personal and business lives are separate just don’t live in the business world. They are not separate nor should they be.
Sojourn
Nov 20, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Excellent response, Tadashi. Domo.
edward davison jr
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:15 pm
NO APOLOGY REQUIRED TIGER CHEATED AND THAT STARTED EVERYTHING
ED
Nov 7, 2013 at 1:13 pm
In something of a bombshell at a recent court hearing, Vijay Singh’s lawyer accused the PGA Tour of repeatedly exempting players from testing and punishment under its anti-doping program. But no proof has yet to be made public.
ED
Nov 7, 2013 at 1:23 pm
BE REAL FELLOW GOLFERS, LIAR OBAMA LIES ABOUT OUR HEALTH CARE, BEING ABLE TO HAVE YOUR SAME POLICY AND THE SAME DOCTOR, and 40,000,000 DEMOCRATS SAY THATS NOT SO…AND YOU HAVE LIAR OBAMA DEAD TO THE ISSUE ON HD VIDEO TAPE
SAME WITH TIGER, BRANDEL HAS THE CHEATING ON HD VIDEO TAPE….I saws the LOOSE IMPEDIMENT MOVED BY AN OUTSIDE AGENCY…NOTHING SAID…WRITE HIM A CHECK FOR SHOWING HOW TO CHEAT
Tadashi
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Hmmmm…your real colors show, which no makes the totally idiotic previous post, understandable, keep your politics and bigotry out of here and post them in the proper forum.
Sojourn
Nov 20, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Ed: take it to the FNC, not here. This is a golf site. Got it?
Tadashi
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Cheated? Define it….after you have the definition, please site in ANY of Tiger Woods rules violations in which an advantage was in Tiger’s favor left unchecked…..I will wait……
RCM1301
Nov 19, 2013 at 11:47 am
Tiger felt he should not have been penalized, therefor his score should have been 2 shots lower – that is advantage.
Lateef
Nov 5, 2013 at 3:45 pm
All can say is this people make mistakes everyday no one is perfect. Tiger is not the only one on tour that cheated or had issues in his marriage. The guy that introduced him to his ex-wife used to live in the strip club. The King used to hang with the Rat Pack so you know he wasn’t perfect. Everybody learns from his mistakes. Tiger has to share his kids instead of having them around all the time. So enough said on that topic please. Tiger had some major golf violations and was penalized for it, so he was punished and didn’t get away with it. If I remember correctly its still up to the players discretion according to the rules then you turn it over to the officials and that’s what happen. Mr. Putter yips can say all he wants but we all know money and fame is made off of Tiger these days.
ED
Nov 7, 2013 at 2:51 pm
LATEEF, HE SIGNED AN INCORRECT SCORECARD…A RULE VIOLATIOn, BALL DROP A RULE VIOLATION, SIGNED HIS SCORECARD THE NEXTDAY AFTER THE HONORABLE MASTERS RULES COMITTEE, DETERMINED TIGER NOT TO BE DQed….SIGNED AN INACCURATE SCORECARD ONE DAY, THE NEXT DAY HE HAS A REVISED GOLF CARD AND SIGNS IT…THE PLAYERS WONT COMPLAIN AS THERE IN THE SAME UNION….EUROPEANS KNOW IT WAS A CHEAT…!
Tadashi
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Signing the wrong score card would NOT have given him an advantage…by the definition you are already wrong. Moreover he was penalized. Ball drop rule? That rule is violated by more tour pros and the only difference this time? It’s Tiger Woods. Delay signature too has happened before in a major mind you and no one has ever made a big deal of it. All of Woods violations were met with penalty. So there is no cheating…see how stupid your thought process is? The Rule book is sizable, and in any given moment if I were a PGA rules nazi, I could find violations on ANY player in ANY tournament/event. The only difference here is it is Tiger Woods. It seems nay sayers will do anything to try to prevent him from becoming the best of all time in The PGA. In due time, that will come to pass, no matter the silly attempts to discredit Woods or the dog whistles thrown at him…
Brandel
Nov 14, 2013 at 1:56 am
Signing the wrong score card did give him the advantage because it was a lower score than what it should have been.
Sojourn
Nov 20, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Yes, but when Tiger signed his card with the wrong score, did he know the score was wrong? No. And why – because the PGA didn’t tell him until after the fact. They were as much to blame as Tiger was. Makes you wonder if the rules officials on the course couldn’t be doing a better job.
Jamie
Nov 5, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Chamblee should not apologize, nor should anyone else who points out the facts,
Tiger woods has cheated on the golf course, that’s the facts, it may be hard for some to except but it’s true, if you can not own up to a infringement then you must expect to be slaughtered when your caught !!!
Jack Nicklaus he will never be, but we are all expected to respect woods in the same way, the greats were just that for all the reasons woods is not,
Hard to except for some, but true!
Tadashi
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Jaime, Please define “cheat”. Then after you comprehend its meaning please state where any unfair advantage Wood have favored Woods…I’ll wait…
RCM1301
Nov 19, 2013 at 11:49 am
if you do not call the penalty on yourself, your score is 2 shots lower – that is advantage.
Sojourn
Nov 20, 2013 at 12:56 pm
In the end, if you got many of the top players from the past and present, and allowed them to speak anonymously, I’ll bet you’d be surprised at the comments you’d hear from them about the conduct of PGA players during tournaments.
BartB
Nov 4, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Chamblee wasn’t just giving an opinion, he was restating what we know…tiger cheats and he does that because he can. TGC will have excuses waiting for him and he will be welcomed with open arms. Why? He’s the cash cow and most people that follow tiger and like him, don’t even play. They just know him as the only golfer they know. AE is dropping his contract for video games…probably because they’re not sure how to program illegal ball drops and hitting out of turn. He’s the worst thing that ever happened to golf…just go to a muni course and watch the kids swear, spit, not clean up divots or ball marks and throw clubs. He was, is and always will be a lousy role model. Chamblee is only wrong in apologizing. Stick to your guns Brandel.
edward davison jr
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:22 pm
I AGREE BARTB, BRANDEL STICK TO YOUR OBSERVATIONS, IT REALLY IS JUST AN OPINION
Many others saw tiger cheat, But for The Masters Honor Comittee, to rewrite Tigers score card in the Middle of the night, and allow him to continue is a FARCE…SIGNED A FALSE SCORECARD LEFT THE COURSE ????
ned
Nov 10, 2013 at 4:13 pm
perfect comments- all the hacks that watch and worship him (mostly pacific rim hacks) have no idea!
his last year at sherwood, no more sponsors!
he has single handedly ruined golf, with the exception of known admitted cheaters as (trundle) faldo and infamous slow players like jack and middlecoff! simply facts!
true heroes in golf included snead, demarett, nelson, love III, crenshaw and miller! all w/integrity beyond reproach. look it up!
John Gates
Nov 20, 2013 at 2:49 pm
pretty interesting comments here, I don’t recall Jack being a super slow player for one. Not saying he wasn’t… I love the word integrity, that is definately what is missing in Woods. You hear about Bobby Jones calling a penalty on himself to lose the open by a stroke (or some other major), that is integrity! Would Woods do that? Not in a million years!
I personally don’t care for Woods but he has grown golf by leaps and bounds there’s no denying that.
Just sayin'
Nov 3, 2013 at 11:31 pm
I would prefer that Chamblee stayed at the Golf magazine and left Golf Central. I see where he thinks he is “pretty good” with his opinions but I don’t agree.
RMyers
Nov 4, 2013 at 7:03 am
Brandel Chamblee believes he is the greatest thing that ever existed on Earth when the reality is he has mental issues relating to his ego. Time for him to go. That kind of commentary has no place in the game of golf. Leaning on “this is my job” is a lame excuse for making those comments the way he did. I will never watch any segments he is on again. He is a non person as far as I’m concerned.
edward davison jr
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:16 pm
PURE PUKE RMYERS
RMyers
Nov 10, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Pure Truth
RCM1301
Nov 8, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Dr Phil?
R Darn
Nov 1, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Aw come on Tiger you pansy. Suck it up. UOU know you’re not Mr Goody Two Shoes.
Tadashi
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Easy to name call behind a monitor …
stephenf
Oct 31, 2013 at 7:43 pm
If the writer could step out of the shower with Tiger long enough to hear what’s actually going on, maybe he’d figure this out: Chamblee apologized for the part of his statement that connected Tiger’s “cavalier” treatment of the rules (very accurate, especially when it comes to the spirit of the rules) to the kind of intentional cheating that goes on in school. He is not apologizing for saying that Woods was “cavalier,” and he shouldn’t. That is not the same thing as saying Woods is a “cheater” in the sense that most people think of it. The fact that you or anybody else was expecting a further apology is somebody else’s problem, not Chamblee’s.
The truth is, Woods has been violating both the spirit and the letter of the rules in various ways since practically the first week he came out on tour; it’s just that there were more particularized and publicized incidences of it this year.
It’s not a matter of him “cheating” in the sense that most people understand that word, but rather his treating the whole question of the rules as if he were in some other pro sport, where it is the job of officials and rules committees to catch you at something and hey, if they don’t, you’re not helping them. And if they rule that you can play, you’re gonna play, even though the right thing to do would be to disqualify yourself because you can read the plain English of the rules yourself, and it’s your job, not somebody else’s, to be sure you’ve followed them in every way and down to the last detail, and if somebody is trying to give you a break because they need you around for the weekend so their ratings don’t crater, that’s nice of them, but it’s not golf.
I don’t think Woods “cheats” in any way that _he_ thinks is unfair or that gives him an advantage, which is what most people think of as being a “cheater.” But he does not understand, or if he understands he does not practice, the actual spirit of the rules. He was raised to believe the world, particularly the golf world, revolves around him and him alone, and that it is his job to adjust to no one while everybody and everything — including the rules — adjust to him, and as far as he and Tigerphiles are concerned, the standards that apply to him are the ones found in the rest of the pro sports world. That is not how things are supposed to work in this game. The rules are meant to level everybody, and they don’t care whether you’re Tiger Woods, the President, or an 11-handicapper at the muni. But not in the world of professional golf, a world that has come to look increasingly indistinguishable from other pro sports, and not in the realm of obsessive and endlessly profitable Tiger-celebrity-centeredness, which should not be confused with the actual game of golf. Too often it seems that “golf journalists” can’t quite decide which of those worlds they’re covering.
KarlK
Nov 4, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Whoa Stephenf,
Take it easy, you sound like an angry individual, golf has gotten way too popular for your liking. It sounds as though you yearn for the days when the face of the game had more of a country club atmosphere, limited to a select few “gentlemen” who considers themselves worthy of this great game that Bobby Jones and his cronies perfected.
Well wake up and smell the roses my friend, look around and see that Tiger is one of the best thing that ever happened to this dying game, look and see it is no longer played by out of shape smokers and drunks.
You have no business speaking on behalf of “tigerphiles” you should stick to your tiger hating comments and stay in the shower with that hack Brandel.
ned
Nov 10, 2013 at 4:20 pm
well written and accurate- additionally off topic, $12 Heineken’s at Riviera means that john q. public is donating 2 billion to charity- not the finchem crowd and his lowlife sycophants! look it up!
Tadashi
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:44 pm
As I said previously, If we we parse the rules there are violations by EVERY player on the tour. Not just Tiger. If you are referencing to the spirit of the rules of golf then if that we’re true Tiger would not be playing today so please use your words wisely….Moreover don’t give me that level playing field crap! If that we’re the case, Tiger Wood have bypassed Jack long ago, can you say Tiger-proof courses? Get outta here with the fairy tales!
Brandel
Nov 14, 2013 at 2:03 am
Rules need to be rewritten for the modern era and simplified.
vince
Oct 31, 2013 at 7:03 pm
I guess both Tiger and Chamblee suck at apologies.
Dennis Clark
Oct 31, 2013 at 6:19 pm
You’re spot on here Zack. This is NOT a Chamblee/Woods issue. It is a media bully pulpit issue. No one has the right to call another a cheater in our game unless they were in the event and witnessed it firsthand and were protecting the field. You do not make that call from the “booth”.
edward davison jr
Nov 7, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Dennis, Thank You for input…
Brett Lowry
Oct 31, 2013 at 5:25 pm
Chambels is a complete idiot. He had made many of the same poor choices Tiger has. The only thing different is he did/doesn’t have the game to go with these choices. Tiger is not going around saying how bad of a putter Brandel is nor is he saying how bad of a person Brandel is for his poor choices. Neither one has been right in their personal life and it’s not fair for Brandel to say wrong things regarding Tiger and cheating.
yo!
Oct 31, 2013 at 5:03 pm
It sounds like an apology … just not a George Costanza deserved one. Also sounds like the parent (Golfchannel) got word and the child has been told to apologize.
RCM1301
Oct 31, 2013 at 4:01 pm
When was the last time a PGA player had 3 rules issues in a year?
When was the last time the no1 rank player in the world had 3 rules issues in a year?
The problem lies with Tiger, not with Brandel!
Tbone
Nov 1, 2013 at 12:12 am
Let’s face it, no other player in the history of the game is on camera as much as Tiger is. Doesn’t matter if he is in first place or last during a tournament, he is going to get airtime. What other player can you say that about? How many other players would be in this situation if their play was on tv as much as Tiger’s? Every single one, I’m sure.
RCM1301
Nov 1, 2013 at 8:31 am
Correct, but then Tiger should do a better job of knowing the rules or ask his playing partner for help or ask for rules official.
Tbone
Nov 1, 2013 at 12:55 pm
That is a fair enough statement, but I think the real issue here is Brandel’s comments, implying intent to cheat. If you look at the three violations, was there intent to cheat by violating the rules? I seriously doubt it. The only one where you could even make that argument is the embedded ball in January. He gained absolutely NO advantage from violating the other two rules. The drop at the Masters? What advantage did he gain there by dropping two feet away from where he was supposed to? Same with the loose impediment. Rules violations happen to every player, Tiger gets busted more since he is always on video. To say he is intentionally cheating is asinine. Brandel was out of line, no two ways about it. I’m not even a Tiger fan since the ‘scandal,’ but he is being treated unfairly here.
Sojourn
Nov 20, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Obviously, the rules officials aren’t doing a very good job either.
Mike
Oct 31, 2013 at 3:33 pm
I wish Golf channel would release this clown, he’s been trying to make a name for himself by bashing tiger basically his entire career. Wether Tiger is in the wrong or not, Brandel Chamblee has gone after tiger for everything from his marriage to his swing change to his lack of judgement on the course. I want to state Im not saying Tiger has done everything right but as analyst you are suppose to be objective and he is simply NOT when it comes to Tiger he praises everyone else. This is how he has decided to make a name for himself. I do bot enjoy his coverage or spots on golf channel. Thats just my personal opinion even before all this went down. Golf channel would better off without him and they really should consider parting ways with him.
RCM1301
Oct 31, 2013 at 3:53 pm
So, somebody is only objective if it lines up with your viewpoint? At least he provides something different.
Geoffrey
Oct 31, 2013 at 10:11 pm
You are completely wrong. Brandel has repeatedly called tiger the best, most enigmatic and compelling golfer of our time. He has repeatedly said no one inspires more than watching tiger play. He has also said his main issue with all the swing changes is that it robs the fans a chance at watching history while retooling. Never has his opinion always been completely negative.
Kevco
Oct 31, 2013 at 2:51 pm
The basic problem is that that TW has proven that he lacks character and now people view everything he does with that knowledge in their heads. It’s not like his cheating was a simple matter of having an affair with a single individual. He was hitting everything that walked worldwide while pretending he was an f’n family man. Total lack of character. If he could do that to his family, then he could certainly knowingly improve his lie to try and win another major to shut everyone up who keeps talking about him and Nicklaus’ record. I don’t hate him but I don’t idolize him either. On a personal level, I have zero admiration for him. He’s a total ass that has ridiculous golf skillz.
Minh Nguyen
Oct 31, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Kevco, your argument is asinine. What Tiger did in his personal life has ZERO correlation with what he does on the golf course. IMO, your lack of “admiration” for him is clouding your judgement.
Tiger Woods is unlike any other professional golfer in any era. He has cameras on him at all times and there is little to no room for “cheating” let alone getting away with it.
I heard a good analogy on the radio today. In football, offensive linemen get called for holding all the time. Like Tiger, these offensive linemen broke a rule and were penalized for it. With that said, would you call all offensive linemen who are caught holding “cheaters”??? I don’t think so.
Kevco
Nov 1, 2013 at 12:37 am
My observation is that there is overwhelming evidence that he certainly cheated on his wife and family…actually, there should be a new word for it because cheating falls short in describing that circus. My point is that what he did is a reflection of who he is as a human being. It’s interesting that you would suggest that in your opinion, who he is as a human being has zero correlation to what he does on the golf course. There’s only one “he”, whether it be on or off the golf course. There is no doubt that he took an improper drop at the Masters. If he had integrity, he would have withdrawn as Palmer, Nicklaus or many current pros would have. The fact that he didn’t is telling. There is only one he. You are confusing his greatness as a golfer with greatness as a human being. He’s a great golfer but not a great human being and you are very naive to think that one has no bearing on the other. On a me and you personal level, my “argument” as you put it is not asinine. It is my opinion. I would never suggest that you are an ass because you disagree with me. What is obvious is that I have significantly more life experience than you and thankfully, it helps me develop more thoughtful opinions.
Minh Nguyen
Nov 1, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Kevco, you will never get any argument from me about Tiger being an unfaithful husband. What he did to his wife and children are inexcusable.
I grew up watching Michael Jordan.IMO, he is the greatest basketball player of all time. However, like Tiger I would never model my personal life after them. With that said, I still disagree with your correlation of one’s professional and personal life.
There are plenty of instances where people are “one way” in one part of their life and “another way” in the other part of their life. I am a different “he” as a father, as a husband, as an employee, and as a golfer.
On a personal level there is nothing for you to be offended by. I disagreed with your opinion and stated it as such. I never called you an ass or personally attacked you the person.
Brandel
Nov 14, 2013 at 2:15 am
Basketball is a different sport. If you aren’t getting called for fouls or violations you aren’t playing hard or rough enough. I would do whatever it took to win a basketball game and if the ref didn’t call it, it never happened. Take it from a state champ. In golf you are supposed to have the honor to be the player and the ref at the same time. Michael Jordan would do whatever it took, he was mean and dirty when he needed to be. The problem is that people are realizing that Tiger is fallible and has a broken moral compass. Maybe it is unfair of golf fans to expect their superstars like Tiger to have the morality and ethics of Bobby Jones, Nicklaus, and Watson. But like it or not people will always hold the best to the highest standard because THE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE GREATNESS. THE PEOPLE WANT A DESERVING ATHLETE TO PASS JACK, NOT A AN ASTERISK LIKE BARRY BONDS.
Walt
Nov 22, 2013 at 12:45 am
Kevco………exactly what makes a “great” human being? Do you think Palmer, Nicholas and all the other professional golfers haven’t made poor decisions in their lifetimes? Unfortunately the media and the watching public have placed Tiger on such a high pedastal because of his extraordinary golfing skills, that his extramarital affairs have become what people judge him on. Do you know any persons who may have “cheated” on their significant others, or who have became addicted to substances or gambling or who have made any number of poor choices? I’m sure you are also not perfect, like the rest of us. The problem is we, the public place too much importance on athletes and then we are disappointed when they show us they are no different then we are…..they are HUMAN, and make the same mistakes humans make. Tiger’s personal life HAS NO PLACE in his professional life. He is one of the Greatest Golfers of all time, and may end up being The Greatest? But that will always be up for debate as it is with every Athlete in every sport. Whether or not he intentionally cheated or believed he was getting an unfair advantage Is known only to him. The violations he was called on did not give him an advantage at all, except maybe the embedded ball? However on that, you can see him conferring with his opponent and they both came to the conclusion he was entitled to a drop. The drop at the Masters did not give him an unfair advantage because he dropped FURTHER away by a couple of feet, he still had to make an incredible shot. He couldn’t place the ball as near to the place of the previous shot, he had to perform a legal drop, which he did. What the cameras doesn’t show is the slope of the fairway in which he was playing from. The ball moving when he attempted to remove a twig, actually made his shot harder, not easier because the ball settled straight down, it didn’t roll. I believe if it was you looking down from the top, you probably wouldn’t have seen the ball settle down either. The scrutiny he under is unfathomable. The MAJORITY of people watching golf is because of him, and his EVERY move is watched and analyzed by thousands and thousands of people. How would you enjoy living in that fish bowl? No, he isn’t perfect, but that doesn’t make him a cheater.
Geoffrey
Nov 1, 2013 at 1:53 am
Minh, you are arguing that how a person acts in their personal life has no bearing or can show no glimpse into how they might act in their professional life. The majority of the people in this world show a strong correlation between personal and professional personality traits. It is a proven fact. That being said, I am not judging what Tiger has done in either arena. None of us know what hew as thinking or why he makes the decisions he makes. I am certainly not in any position to judge. None of us are. But to say that how one acts in one arena doesn’t give some sort of evidence to how they will act in the other. Naive to think otherwise…
Whether you or I agree with Kevco’s argument is less of concern to me than attacking his view as asinine. I try to believe the best in people, even those who go through public humiliations. But it is how they treat people on both sides of success that will shape my point of view.
Minh Nguyen
Nov 1, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Geoffrey, let’s flip the script. Before Tiger’s marital unfaithfulness was revealed, he was considered by many the best golfer in the world. His was on pace to tie/break Jack’s record of 18 majors. At that time, you could safely assume Tiger must work extremely hard at golf (i.e. practice, eat right, exercise, and practice some more).
Now, if we use your opinion that the “majority of the people in this world show a strong correlation between personal and professional personality traits” we would have to also assume Tiger was a hard worker when it came to being a husband and father. Due to the unfortunate circumstances, we know he wasn’t working all that hard at being a “faithful” husband. We still don’t know how he is as a father.
I hope that all makes sense. In regards to Kevco, I don’t see any issue with attacking his opinion. In my book that is called debating.
Geoffrey
Nov 2, 2013 at 8:36 pm
No issue, other than the term “asinine”. Otherwise all good. Now that you have flipped the script, I could also say he worked just as hard at filandering or covering it up as he did on his golf. Same logic, just change the thing in parallel.
Danny
Oct 31, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Brandel doesn’t need to apologize. You can all attack him for being a nobody, but he is right, Tiger should have been DQed twice this year (Augusta & The Players.)
He has a ton of fans that say otherwise, but Chamblee spoke the truth and the rest of the media is too far up Tiger’s a** to speak it too. Johnny Miller and Dan Hicks rolled over like dogs on the Players knowing that is they POed Tiger this would happen.
The Augusta drop would have gotten the rest of the field DQed. Lets be honest
TWShoot67
Oct 31, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Danny,
So your calling Casey Wittenberg a liar and a cheat, plus you know Tigers intent by watching a replay over and over in super slow mo with HD state of the art camera. All of this from the comfort of your home. So you were not there in person standing behind Tiger woods when he hit his wayward tee shot @ The Players but you know for a fact that Casey Lied tiger lied and so did the camera or no the camera is always 100% correct all the time. LOL Get real.
Geoffrey
Oct 31, 2013 at 10:13 pm
You are missing Danny’s point. It is that most aren’t willing to speak what they feel in regards to Tiger. The backlash is monumental, and that if miller and hicks were to be disagreeable, the backlash wouldn’t be worth it. That was his point.
edward davison jr
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:31 pm
I BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH AS THAT SEEMS A REASONABLE OUTCOME….THE SLOW MOVING HD MOVIES TELL IT ALL…AUGUSTA MASTERS OFFICIALS LIED…THEY CORRECTED HIS SCORECARD AFTER HE [TIGER] LEFT THE COURSE…AND TIGER NEVER SIGNED IT THAT NIGHT
nb1062
Oct 31, 2013 at 9:46 am
How long are you (GOLFWRX) going to keep harping on this? It’s as though you want to fan the embers of a story until it turns into something more.
TWShoot67
Oct 31, 2013 at 9:31 am
What I’d like to know is how many of us get graded at work for what we’ve done outside of work? Does your boss/job pay you less for treating your family indifferent? For all of you out there who have cheated on your wife /girlfriend, does anyone bring this up at your job 3-4 years later? Why is it that every time there’s any story about Tiger Woods the first line out of every haters mouth is well he cheated on his wife so that means he cheats at everything else he does in life! No one but Tiger knows what his INTENT was during these drops that were brought into question, but yet all the opposers sure think they know what Tiger was thinking. To give any player an “F” for a 5 win season on the PGA Tour is an absolute joke and should have never made the light of day. But what it did by being published was to serve two purposes promote Brandel Chamblee and Golf.com. Well it did served another purpose but that’s the most obvious of all, it gave the haters another forum to spew their hate of Tiger Woods.Bottom line Tiger didn’t CHEAT, if you feel his intent was to cheat then your saying Casey Wittenberg cheated as well and how come Chamblee isn’t writing about his cheating at golf since Chamblee cares so much about integrity? By calling out Tiger you also call out his playing partners, but yet they are never mentioned in any article by Chamblee. So in reality the article is not about the supposed cheating ( cheating would have meant he got away with it which Tiger never did) that bothers Chamblee, Cheating: It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. Please tell me where Tiger gained an unfair advantage over anyone during these rule infractions. Tiger was assed the penalty so bottom line he did not cheat! How many times can we beat a dead horse.
edward davison jr
Nov 7, 2013 at 7:50 pm
TIGER IS THE CATAYST, HE IMPROPERLY DROPED THE BALL, HE SIGNED A FALSE SCORECARD, HE STOOD AND WATCHED AN OUTSIDE AGENCY MOVE A 500# impediment…so Tiger had a FULL SWING…No Penalty.
THE HONORABLE MASTERS RULES COMITTEE, MET, at Midnight changed Tigers score card, and had him resign the NEW CARD…WHEN DOES TIGER APOLGIZE…IT SEEMS A BILLIONARE PROFESSIONAL GOLFER SHOULD BE ABLE TO DROP A BALL INACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES..TIGER SAID, HIS DROP WAS IN FACT A BETTER LIE THAN THE FIRST ONE…RULE STATES AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE ORIGINAL LIE
Dave
Oct 31, 2013 at 7:44 am
The premise of this article, that Chamblee “apologized” twice, is dishonest. Chamblee talked about the article he wrote criticizing Tiger, but there was no “I am sorry Tiger feels that way” type of language.
If the author wanted to write about Chamblee’s follow up comments, that is fine. But why the silly “Chamblee apologized but really didn’t” angle?
Martin
Oct 31, 2013 at 6:32 am
Tiger is a bully, Chamblee was right on this stuff.
I think he is making a jab at how stupid Tiger’s reaction including the “It’s in the golf channels court now” comment.
It reminds me of the time when my Boss was giving me crap for something that really wasn’t my fault and he said “I’m not trying to be a jerk about this” and my response was ‘I know you’re not trying Harry”
He missed the sarcasm.
Jack
Oct 31, 2013 at 9:08 am
You got the roles reversed there bud.
Geoffrey
Oct 31, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Martin got it right.
jonathan
Oct 31, 2013 at 9:35 am
I don’t see how tiger “cheated” on the rules. If we had to see video of the ball dropping a millimeter, from BEHIND tiger, how the hell can he see it drop, instead of oscillate like he thought it did, from above the ball?
Also, was Dustin Johnson a cheater when he grounded his club in some sand and it cost him a win? If Tiger was cheating when he picked up the embedded ball, then DJ was cheating. That was lack of knowledge of a local rule.
The only rule that he really got wrong was the drop at Augusta. Bunch of tiger haters everywhere.
Alex
Nov 23, 2013 at 10:55 pm
I thought Tiger stopped removing the debris as soon as he saw the ball move. Watch the video
ED
Nov 7, 2013 at 1:50 pm
MARTIN, CERTAINLY A GREAT OBSERVATION, anyone can see the USGA rules breaking on HD VIDEO
Chris
Oct 31, 2013 at 3:49 am
Bumbelee isn’t very good but he was not far off in his assessment of Tiger. Unfortunately he did not stick to his guns and is in backpedal mode.
tiger168
Oct 31, 2013 at 12:52 am
What apology, he is “accusing” Tiger’s people “barking on the wrong tree”.
Are you kidding me?
Why would anyone interpret this is an apology is beyond me.
And he is saying the Golf.com EDITOR is to blame by printing his comments. WHAT??
He is perfect, he cannot be wrong! He is God!
Well he gets an “F” for being whatever he claims… And he is a “cheater” himself… wait, don’t defend him and accuse me, he “admitted” it…
Geoffrey
Oct 31, 2013 at 10:18 pm
He didn’t blame the editor. He said he should have listened to him. All this revisionist history around here is hysterical. Don’t mean to be disrespectful, I dint want to have to give an internet apology, but come on. I think if we step back and read things or listen to exactly what people say there would be less to bitch about. But agendas and personal preference get in the way. For those who think that Brandel is jealous, has a vendetta, is racist, is a bum…. Seriously? It’s one thing to disagree, but to do so with venom is deplorable.
someguy
Oct 31, 2013 at 12:50 am
I know for 100% certainty this was staged by the Golf Channel. My wife works for a company that handles Brandel’s PR for his I Love Scottsdale campaign and she was eating breakfast with him yesterday morning when he was called and told he had to fly to Orlando and give an apology. He was not given any say in “apology,” and had to say whatever GC wanted him to say. The guy is a grade A jerk and is also dating a 26 yr old.
ams165
Oct 30, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Chumplee is a clown. He hates Tiger is Jealous of Tiger and I bet he has a streak of Racism running down his back.
Nobody else ware is as critical of tiger than Chumplee.
Please leave the GC. The sport will be better off without you…
blanco
Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 pm
wurd.
Geoffrey
Oct 31, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Sad, really sad that you have such a divisive opinion about this. Prove it!
J
Oct 30, 2013 at 11:41 pm
Just another passive aggressive windbag who won’t stand beside what he said. Good for you Chamblee… Way to bow down again. Tiger Woods did have a rather ” liberal ” year so to speak. Screw all the off-course crap, for someone who wants to be known as the GOAT and for all his supporters who say he’s the GOAT….
Go learn the F’Ing rules if you don’t want people calling you a cheater….
And which of us didn’t know that ” oops ” drop at the Masters wasn’t the proper drop…
For gods sake…. Get real.
I hate Chamblee and root for Tiger just to be clear..
But I’m not dumb and Tiger seems to think we all are… So F Him.
Geoffrey
Oct 31, 2013 at 10:20 pm
You are awesome…
Matthew
Oct 30, 2013 at 11:06 pm
I’m not sure how you give an “F” for a 5 win season on the PGA Tour regardless of the player. Tiger was penalized for his rules violations – as I would suspect many other tour players were throughout the season. So, I’m not seeing Mr. Chamblee’s rationale that being assessed penalty strokes equals a failed season. The players championship drop was confirmed by Tiger’s playing partner – yet Mr. Chamblee still questions it which means Tiger is not the only one he’s calling a cheater. The unfortunate thing, kind of like the guy that yells “mashed potatoes” to get on TV, Mr. Chamblee has successfully linked himself in some small way to the best player to ever play the game. I really liked Mr. Chamblee when he started out and still enjoy hearing his analysis – I just don’t know why he’s decided to go this route of seemingly making everything about him.
ED
Nov 7, 2013 at 1:16 pm
In something of a bombshell at a recent court hearing, Vijay Singh’s lawyer accused the PGA Tour of repeatedly exempting players from testing and punishment under its anti-doping program. But no proof has yet to be made public.
Ryan
Oct 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm
I’m so sick and tired of people not standing beside what they say. Chamblee is paid to give his opinion; right, wrong, biased or indifferent and that’s exactly what he did. It all rings so hollow when people are forced to apologize when they obviously don’t mean it. You said it. Stand up, be a man and take the flak that comes from it. We really need to stop being so politically correct as a society.
Dave
Oct 31, 2013 at 7:47 am
Did you read this article? Chamblee did not apologize?
David Stewart
Oct 30, 2013 at 10:27 pm
I have to side with Chamblee. Tiger has been playing golf all his life. He knows the rules as well as anyone. I think he feels he can get away with anything because he is Tiger Woods. He cheated on his wife, lied about what course officials said, and always wines when he doesn’t get his way. Is this really who we want to be the poster child of golf. Not me.
Brandon Ramos
Oct 30, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Yet another tiger hater. I guess you live in a world built with no mistakes or errors. I bet you knowingly break the speed limit everyday while driving seeing the posted speed limit and disregarding. But again you stand in judgement of a man whos intentions you will never know. When you reach perfection let us know.
Geoffrey
Nov 1, 2013 at 1:57 am
Reached it… Wait, no I didn’t. Just made another mistake.
Leroy
Oct 30, 2013 at 11:31 pm
I am so sick of people using “he cheated on his wife” as a cop out and a dig at him. There are many other pro athletes that do the same thing, they just aren’t Tiger Woods, and aren’t under a microscope. At the end of the day, him cheating on his wife has absolutely nothing to do with any conversation regarding his golf talent. For what it is worth, if you want to talk about his personal life affecting his golf, maybe he should start cheating again, he seemed to be playing pretty well until he got caught.
Marcus
Oct 31, 2013 at 9:55 am
Did Chamblee find his 26 year old girl friend BEFORE he divorced his wife or after? Just wondering how pure he is?
Anyway…the posters above who state he did not apologize yesterday are correct, and in fact, he threw a few more insults Tiger’s way.
Chamblee isn’t “100% sure” of his intent to cheat but that suggests a percentage greater than 0% doesn’t it? He also suggests that Tiger and his people don’t investigate and discuss problems, they “bark up the wrong tree and yell at the wrong people.”
I was more disgusted with Chamblee after this continued attack than before. He should have kept his mouth shut of just simply said, “I’m sorry I said what I said…PERIOD” That would have been better than throwing more insults and defending himself as ‘doing my job’.
Chamblee…F on your makeup exam!
tiger168
Oct 31, 2013 at 12:58 am
Opinion cannot be the base for personal or character attack… then he receives the same treatment from everyone, like now…
Unfortunately…
moses
Oct 30, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Brandel lost any credibility he had left with that stunt he pulled. It’s obvious he’s had it out for Tiger for quite some time. But what he did crossed the line.
Geoffrey
Oct 31, 2013 at 10:23 pm
What obvious facts are there he has it out for tiger?
ED
Nov 7, 2013 at 1:47 pm
GEOFFERY, CHECK THE HD VIDEOS…IT SHOWS BILLIONAIRE PRO GOLFER TIGER WOODS, TW, CHEATIN…TIGER NEEDS A RULE BOOK IN HIS GOLF BAG
Geoffrey Alter
Nov 8, 2013 at 8:16 pm
That wasn’t my question… My question was what obvious facts are there that Brandel has it out for Tiger. I agree with your summation… That wasn’t what I was responding to.
Hunterdog
Oct 30, 2013 at 10:25 pm
This was so staged they should have simply televised the cue cards for the Q and A. But I guess a very nuanced practiced non apology is better than letting him answer real question
Elevatemel8r
Oct 31, 2013 at 7:39 am
Excatly, Btw why are we still talking about this? Don’t they both win because we are still talking about this?
Jud
Oct 30, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Its simply self promotion and he knows it. You know if you give the pga tour player of the year an F on his season, its going to cause controversy. He thought it would gain him notoriety and all the Tiger haters would come to his side. Unfortunately for him Tigers camp got involved and made him look like an idiot, who simply had an agenda to smear Tigers five win season.
Brett
Nov 1, 2013 at 2:09 am
Well put Jud. Brandel is a loud mouth that needs to go. Maybe he can join the senior tour soon and get throttled there also.
Kyle
Oct 30, 2013 at 9:46 pm
He’s a joke. Every time he talks I get more and more annoyed with him
Joe
Oct 30, 2013 at 9:42 pm
He does seem hard on tiger more so than others, but also provides good insight sometime, even if controversial.
Geoffrey
Oct 31, 2013 at 10:25 pm
Keep in mind the GC spend the majority of their time discussing Tiger. Therefore any analyst will be spending their time giving opinions on Tiger. Brandel, Nobilo, Whomever is there is talking about Tiger. They all talk about Tiger. All of them, all day long. Before his scandal they had a Tiger week for f$&@ sake…